Public gets a new view of Market EastPrint Page

February 24, 2009

Feb. 24

By Thomas J. Walsh and
Kellie Patrick Gates

For PlanPhilly

Broad plans for Market Street East, the inexplicably diminished commercial zone between 8th Street and City Hall, got their initial airing Tuesday night at a special presentation from the Philadelphia City Planning Commission, held at Thomas Jefferson University’s Dorrance Hamilton Auditorium on Locust Street.

While the background hum has consistently been the controversy over the slots parlor slated to be moved into The Gallery’s third floor, Planning Commission Executive Director Alan Greenberger and the main architect for the early-stage plans, Stan Eckstut, stressed a public realm set of principles to lay the groundwork for a new intermodal transit station and a newly concentrated Center City “Main Street” along 10th Street. The emphasis is on bringing people and business back to Market Street – casino or no casino.

Both men said that the 30,000-foot view of their intentions was to concentrate on a sense of place and overall improvement, rather than pinning hopes on any particular project – such as the infamous DisneyQuest entertainment googlaplex that was sucked into a sinkhole of hype at the southwest corner of 8th and Market; or the mythical Nordstrom department store, once the Great Retail Hope for the 1100 block of Market Street’s south side. Or, these days, a Foxwoods casino.


Other principles cited as bedrock for the large-scale makeover include an expansion of Chinatown (south, to gain a Market Street presence, and northeast, for in-fill development toward a revitalized Franklin Square) and Thomas Jefferson University (perhaps north toward Market).

“The potential of a casino has made this planning effort more urgent,” Greenberger said. The city had thought there would be more to talk about by now regarding the casino. “We initiated this planning process, and the intent was it would run parallel to what the casino’s plan would be,” Greenberger told PlanPhilly in an interview late Monday. “But actually the Planning Commission has gotten out ahead of the casino planning.” (See below for more on Foxwoods.)

Foxwoods and the owners of The Gallery, Pennsylvania Real Estate Investment Trust (who were behind efforts for the Nordstrom a decade ago, by the way), have been sitting in on meetings with the Planning Commission and Eckstut. Greenberger and his staff have also been discussing the plans in private meetings with community and business leaders from nearby neighborhoods, including Chinatown, Center City and Washington Square West.

Philly’s Hole in the Donut
An actual marketplace, East Market Street was an integral part of Philadelphia’s colonial era. It had been the center of commerce in the city until the 1970s, when several department stores (Gimbels, Wanamaker’s, Strawbridge’s, Lit Brothers) went into serious decline as the city continued to lose factories, jobs and residents. The Gallery, part of a larger Market East redevelopment effort, closed itself off to the street.

“Obviously that strong presence has been lost over a series of decades,” Greenberger said. “Not intentionally. ... But I think everyone intuitively understands the weaknesses of that area.”

For at least a decade, the area bounded roughly by 8th, 13th, Chestnut and Vine streets has been known to city officials and developers as “the hole in the donut.” While much of the rest of Center City re-populated with young, upper-middle class professionals and empty nesters in new apartments and condominiums, Market Street remained virtually residence-free. The old Reading Railroad Headhouse has been handsomely restored within a Marriott, complete with a Hard Rock Café at 12th, but even that corner is bewildering to out-of-towners looking for either the Market East train station or the Pennsylvania Convention Center, blocks north, on Arch. Even 13th Street, long a degraded stretch south of Market, was given new life when Tony Goldman bought up a slew of properties and turned many into nightspots, restaurants and spruced-up rentals.

In fact, Greenberger, in the earlier interview, said there is hardly any notable landmark, for Philadelphians or visitors, with an East Market address, or an obvious entrance.

“If you think about what’s happened over the last 30 years, Market Street has been almost systematically stripped of the presence of things that exist just behind it, all around,” Greenberger said. The entrances to the Market East Station itself (along with the Greyhound Bus terminal at 10th) lurks on tiny Filbert Street. “Chinatown, robust and economically viable? Zero Market Street presence. Thomas Jefferson University, the second largest private employer in the city? No. The Convention Center? ... Not really.”

The Reading Terminal Market? Not even close. Even in the historic district, the main attractions on Independence Mall and at the Constitution Center sit blocks apart from Market. Perhaps the only new or restored notable building to embrace East Market Street, Greenberger suggested, is the Loews Hotel (the PSFS Building at 12th) and a few others west of it.

So Tuesday night was about the core of East Market only, said Eckstut, founding principal of Ehrenkrantz Eckstut & Kuhn Architects, based in New York. He told the crowd of about 200 or so that his firm, commissioned by the city, is about a third of the way through its process, with much more detail to come.

Later, he estimated that a city plan of this magnitude has roughly three to five years to find its way to firm traction, or it will very likely fail.

“It’s important that we don’t get consumed by casinos when we have such an extraordinary opportunity,” said Eckstut, a native Philadelphian. “... Especially since so much has been accomplished in many other parts of Center City and this area still has the potential for change.” While Greenberger pointed out its weaknesses, Eckstut talked upside. “I think there are many more strengths to build upon. Clearly the emphasis of all city design is on the public realm. ... That’s been our focus since day one.”

The boundaries for Eckstut’s vision are wide – from Sixth Street to Broad and from Vine Street to Walnut. Within that area, high-density, maximum growth efforts are meant to surge from all directions, with 10th and Market as the ideal center of a re-fashioned district. Its four corners are emphasized.

Guiding the plans is the concept of no one particular use, including and perhaps especially a casino, dominating the street life. Eckstut said the idea is to accommodate everyone and all uses, 24/7, the more the merrier, always active.

“The district is filled today with enormous variety,” he said. “We look at the setting and what we see is just a lot of thriving areas” – Old City, Washington Square West, Chinatown, Market Street’s western office corridor. “Every side is totally different from the rest. There is absolutely no uniformity, and we want to let this variety continue.”

Eckstut said he feels the next definite investment in the area, the one most important first step, might very well not be the Foxwoods casino. Instead, it would be a decidedly less sexy, modernized and expanded intermodal center, connecting the subway system with the west end of the Market East commuter rail concourse and the bus stations – all below grade, ideally.

Show me the money
“You have already built the most expensive part,” Eckstut said. “The thing we’re missing is the facility and the environment for buses.” Even if there is no casino, bus traffic is on the rise, Greenberger noted, to and from New York and Atlantic City and everywhere else. If Foxwoods does open, there will be buses galore, Eckstut said. So best to “make the bus experience a first class experience. ... We have the opportunity to do a really world class intermodal center.”

So, how much, ballpark? PlanPhilly asks this question a lot because citizens count on city officials to hold developers and high-minded architects accountable, albeit to a very limited degree, through the reporting of approximate costs.

So it was mildly refreshing that Eckstut hazarded a guess. He said his firm built something similar in Los Angeles eight years ago for about $150 million. In Houston, he’s working on one with a budget of about $75 to $90 million. “But they’re all different,” he added. “We don’t need to build a huge one here. But it should be beautiful, built to last forever and [have] not a piece of concrete.”

Andy Altman, deputy mayor for planning and commerce, said its too early to know precisely how the plan for Market East will be funded, or if it would require a separate bond issue.

Financing will need to come from both private and public sources, he said, much of it facilitated by quasi-public agencies like the Redevelopment Authority and the Philadelphia Industrial Development Corporation. A Market East master plan can guide where such agencies put their money, and so it is “useful for me, from a Commerce perspective, as an important framework for investment,” Altman said.

Altman also said Federal money might be available for those projects. The plan can also help when the city is working with private entities, he said, especially if they believe the overall vision is good for the neighborhoods, and are thus motivated to take steps to make it work.

Mostly, though, it’s about leveraging what’s already in place, Eckstut said. Market East has the most concentrated infrastructure of any section of the city, with all of that underground rail topped by buses and girdled by the highway system, namely the Vine Street Expressway, which, for better or worse, whips motorists into and away from the area north of Market Street in an almost gravitational pull. Along with efforts to further develop Chinatown, part of the plan would be to concentrate traffic, exiting I-676, more effectively along both 6th Street and 8th, while at the same time making those blocks more grid-like and city-like. Just how will that neat trick be pulled off? Stay tuned, the resident who asked was told.


Levy: Rip out the buses
Center City District chief executive Paul Levy, who was part of the earlier meetings with stakeholders, said he likes much of what he’s heard so far.
The emphasis on 10th Street as a walkable spine for Chinatown, Thomas Jefferson, and Wash West and “the whole notion of connecting neighborhoods to the north and south is the right idea,” he said. He’s not certain there’s been enough emphasis on an east-west connection, though, linking the Convention Center and hotels to Independence Mall.
Levy likes the intermodal transit idea, but is “skeptical” about a center located near The Gallery. The existing bus station is at best problematic, Levy said. “I think it should be removed and put out near 30th Street Station,” he said. “The bus station currently creates major problems in terms of both Arch Street and Filbert Street.”

The bus station ended up where it is by accident, anyway, he said. It used to be on West Market, but was moved when the pyramid-crowned Mellon Bank Center was built. While the current station is convenient to Market East Station, Levy said a 30th Street site would have that advantage, too – along with proximity to Amtrak.

Foxwoods: It’s the economy, don’t worry about it.
Asked earlier why Foxwoods’ plans were stalled, Greenberger couldn’t say for sure. “I think it's just the economy,” he said. “They have to finance themselves, too. These days, any time there’s a discussion about a project or development, casino or not, my impression is that every single thing – no matter how much market there is or how brilliant it is, there’s a kind of prolonged discussion.”

Casino projects from Atlantic City to Las Vegas have slowed down or stopped because of the frozen credit markets, and industry experts say it turns out casinos aren’t recession-proof after all. But Foxwoods spokeswoman Maureen Garrity said it’s not money that has kept Foxwoods from coming up with plans to show the city.

“The short answer would be we are still making progress, and still working with the landlord on lease negotiations,” she said.

Garrity said nothing can really be designed for the prospective Foxwoods at The Gallery until Foxwoods reaches a lease agreement with PREIT. The design would need to be based on the space leased to the casino.

When asked if Foxwoods was having financial difficulties, like so many other gaming companies and tribes, she said, “We are confident that we will be able to build this project,” adding that the investors are all still in place. As for relationships with banks for project loans, Garrity said, “I am not going into the details about the financing. But we are confident we will be able to move forward with the project.”

Garrity said she did not know when a lease agreement would be reached with PREIT, but described the negotiations as “positive” and “moving forward.”

Foxwoods and PREIT apparently have a carte blanche timeline. Since there’s been an awful lot of talk about “sunset clauses” at Planning Commission public meetings during the past year, one attendee wondered why the city was behaving like a partnership with Foxwoods was a done deal. Quoting from a stack of documents in the crook of his arm, he got no relief or answer to his question.

Altman, asked afterward about the Foxwoods delay, said the city was proceeding with the Market East vision without a casino plan so as not to waste time. But “we can't really give Foxwoods a deadline,” he said. “A deadline is a bit artificial. I think they are working hard at it. It just takes time to work through.”

Levy said that if there is no casino, Market East still needs improvement. And even if Foxwoods opens there, everyone needs to realize that it would not be an endless source of revenue for projects, he added – other funding streams must be explored.

The money issue makes Levy implore the city to be cautious.

“Planners are not asked to figure out how to fund these things, which is fine,” he said. “But the city has to be careful that it doesn’t raise expectations about improvements without thinking about how to finance those solutions.”

Jeff, now?
Jefferson University came up several times during the meeting as an example of an institution the city would like to see on Market Street. If Jefferson wanted to build a research tower with retail on the ground floor, Greenberger said, the city would likely be amenable.

Jefferson was also given kudos for developing 10th Street into a more vibrant avenue. And then there was the fact that we were all sitting in a new Jeff auditorium. Hmmm.

Asked if the city was in talks with Jefferson, Altman said yes – but only at the same level as it is with the rest of Philadelphia’s “eds and meds.” The city is talking to all of them about their expansion plans, he said.

Keeping an eye on things
Greenberger made it plain before the presentation that there would be no casino plans to share, but as expected, anti-casino residents from Washington Square West, Chinatown and elsewhere made their presence and their opinions clear during the Q&A period following.

For Asian Americans United board member Helen Gym, the possible location of Foxwoods at The Gallery at Market East is just simply the elephant in the room, and the future of the area cannot be adequately discussed without dealing with it. Gym was among those stakeholders who met with the Planning Commission and Eckstut’s firm. She again publicly expressed her displeasure with the process Tuesday night.

Greenberger reassured Gym and the others that there would be a public presentation of Foxwoods’ plan when and if it comes to fruition.

Contact the reporters at thomaswalsh1@gmail.com or kelliespatrick@gmail.com.

Comments

First things first. Please, can we drop the phrase "Market East" and call it something else? It's an extremely stale holdover from the 1960's Ed Bacon era. I hope the city, their planners and Stan Eckstut are smart (and visionary) enough to realize that the future of this ENTIRE corridor from river to river and its' relationship with the rest of Center City has changed dramatically since, say 1978. This particular section of the street (between 6th and Broad) should be thought of in those terms.

In the short term (3-5 years) you are NOT going to see an expansion of BIG retail anywhere in the country. Office uses? Well, when you are dumb enough to rezone areas in the western part of Center City to allow mega towers of over 1,000,000 square feet, that ELIMINATES the possibilities for office growth in locations elsewhere downtown. Residential? Not sure of what demographic would want to live at 11th and Market. Seniors? I don't think so. Young, creative class people? Possibly. But where are they coming from? Philadelphia isn't New York, Boston, Seattle, or even Washington DC (and its' MD/VA suburbs). Then, there is the price/cost issue. $1,000,000+ condos would not work in that area, but cheaper, "affordable housing" presents (political and social) "problems". Entertainment/Tourist uses? Good . . . BUT a casino? Yuck! I don't think it's going to work. I'm not a Philadelphia native so I don't know too much here, but wouldn't the Stadium Area (Phillies/Eagles) on the South Side be the best place for casinos? It's already a kind of de facto entertainment area. It seems so obvious to me. It's got mucho car access (I-95 and I-676), a subway line and maximum visibility. Am I missing something? Is it not feasible politically?

Museums? Maybe, BUT the Parkway corridor still has many parcels left to be filled. Anyway, I hope they come up with something "different" and "spectacular" that would get people talking nationally, not just locally. How about a giant park/open space at 8th and Market on the old Gimbles Department Store site? Can you imagine the juxtaposition? Don't laugh people. Have you seen what the High Line is doing for Manhattan? It's great! Can someone put in a call to West 8 (the design firm) for ideas? How about a new state of the art Main Public Library ala Seattle or San Francisco? I know . . . where's the $$$$$ coming from? But it never hurts to dream big.

Good luck, gentlemen.

The Family Court needs to be removed from Market East, I am sure the brilliant architects that the city has commissined (for the 3rd time, this study has been done over and over) havent noticed that the court is the blight of the neighborhood, remove that element and the bus stop and maybe I will not have to ask the host at the lowes how to take a cab to rittenhouse square to experience no homeless people. this is more of a people issue than a building issue, the combination of the gallery's retailers, funk-o-marts and dr denim's and family court and other agencies should be in other areas of the city (NE, West, etc), not at the front door of our main tourist and visitor destinations. let the expensive architects run up the bill to tell us what we already know, there is a reason none of these neighborhoods are connected, they dont want to be.
Great article, though I love how Helen Gym attempted to throw a wrench into the entire proposal because of just one element of the entire master plan. The point of the meeting was to discuss how positive growth could occur on Market East - with or without a casino. Typical NIMBYism: If I don't get my way, no one else gets theirs, and Market East remains the hole in the doughnut.

thanks helen

 

just fyi

 

a full video of the audience comment segment has been posted on the story

For clarification, my comments made to the Planning Commission and EEK Architects centered on the concern that this was not an honest dialogue about the realities and consequences of building a casino in a major urban downtown center. EEK was hired due to its experience in the casino development field. Why then wouldn't they place their expertise and exerience on the table and present an honest accounting for what a casino has brought to neighborhoods and businesses in other areas? Philadelphians need and deserve an honest accounting of the impact of a slots parlor bringing tens of thousands of people a day will have on development in this area.

They ought to then have presented a plan that removed a casino and provided an alternative development scheme that could have included suggestions like small scale development, Main Street Project approaches, mixed-use development, landbanking, etc. or a host of other things that are an alternative to the big box, dramatic scale efforts that have failed on Market Street time and time again.

Instead, we received an exceptionally vague presentation where casino development was underplayed. Meanwhile, proposals like a giant bus depot on Filbert Street and an 8th Street exit ramp off 676 would only make sense if you were talking about a casino and NOT make sense if you were talking about connecting Chinatown to Market Street and Franklin Square, or if you were considering the realities of neighbors and residents and small businesses in the area.

The issue was not my personal displeasure, but my concern that for a quarter million dollars Philadelphians deserved a real and frank dialogue about casinos, not an attempt to dumb down the conversation about them in the hopes that opposition will go away.

Market East needs a redevelopment plan by and of itself, without regard to a casino. Any planning done for this area cannot be tied to the casino development.

 

Just because it is possibly going to be there, and you don't like it, doesn't mean it should dominate all discussion of the area as a whole.

 

Expanding and improving the Chinatown neighborhood, and improving the bus depot are not tied to the casino development. They are much needed projects that will enhance the Market East area greatly in and of themselves. The casino is not the only thing going on down there and it makes no sense to insist it be discussed during any and every discussion about planning that occurs.

Thank you! The casino is but one element of a much larger plan. An element that has been approved, and is going to be on the top floor of the Gallery whether we like it or not. The casino has been discussed, these attempts to rant to no end are nothing more than transparent attempts to complicate the process so much that Foxwoods gets frustrated and leaves. Unfortunately what this unhealthy dialogue will lead to is a crappy little casino as the anchor of a crappy little part of town even more undesirable than it is now. The casino's coming. Deal with it. Move on so we can figure out what's best to do with the other 95% of Market East.

I agree 100% with Helen Gym. Where is the plan that does not include a casino on Market Street within 1500 feet of where people live and children go to school.

 

I am all in favor of a creative plan that improves the Market East while preserving the diversity of the area. But let's have the "casino conversation". How will a casino impact that neighborhood? How will a casino impact the city as a whole? How have casinos impacted other cities? Let's really have the conversation - now. Because you can't make intelligent plans for a neighborhood until you know if a casino is going to be there or not.

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